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    • CommentAuthorntt
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2007 edited
     
    Let's discuss about the podcast/netcast/vidcast from ping.sg!!

    Brain storm here!!
    • CommentAuthorfarinelli
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2007
     
    maybe alternating between podcast and vidcast? so we won't be that stressed (i know fortnightly is still a terror if we're gonna take this seriously) but more importantly subscribers will be kept entertained, instead of waiting 1 month, 4 weeks, 30 days, 720hours etcetc for a vidcast.

    just throwing thoughts. build on it people!
    • CommentAuthordk99
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2007
     
    eerr... i abit unclear what is this all about....

    u mean doing a podcast?
    • CommentAuthoruzyn
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2007
     
    I would prefer netcast (audio) over vidcast. We can conduct netcast over Skype and even involve listeners' interaction whereas to do vidcast, we have to meet up and set up equipments, etc. Netcast would be whole lot easier.

    I would actually want to go for a weekly show if we are to make one. Fortnight show would be a little too slow.

    And as farinelli pointed out, if we are going to do it we really have to take this seriously, ie. to do consistent shows. Since the people involved would not get any monetary benefits, at least at the start until we get sponsors, they really have to be really passionate about it to be consistent.

    Let's get back to hosts. We can have like 4 or 5 casts and rotating every 2 or 3 weeks, so each time only about 2 or 3 needs to be doing it. Do leave a note here if you are interested in joining the show as a regular. I am ok with being one of the regular host.
    • CommentAuthorfarinelli
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2007
     
    Well hey if it's just Skypecast, I don't mind! Count me in!

    Better start reading up on the scene...

    Although you know uzyn, mrbrown (why's he not here anyways) used to do Skypecasts (oh yeah... Tomorrow huh), and well the audio quality wasn't exactly the best. Plus the fact that we don't exactly get ourselves Sennheisers just to Skype.
    • CommentAuthorrinaz
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2007
     
    (What the heck, I just typed something long here and when I clicked on add comments, it just disappeared :| The binary gods doesnt love me)

    Anyway, has anyone heard of rockstartup? This is a reality show done by the people by payperpost which shows a glimpse of their everyday and typical life. I saw an episode where their servers went down, and they actually filmed how stressed out they were. And the episode where they tried to promote their company to the regular people on the streets.

    I kind of enjoy watching it as it makes it more approachable and to a certain extent, realistic.

    http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=payperpost

    (By the way, I'm not endorsing payperpost. Payperpost is evil :P But I like the videos)

    (By by the way way, I'd love to join the show) :)

    (By by by the way way way, I'm copying this in notepad before in case it gets eaten up again)
    • CommentAuthorkevin
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2007
     
    A Skypecast will be easier to produce, and allow for more participation. The TWiT podcast is a shining example of how this could work (See http://www.twit.tv/TWiT). You might want to make sure not to have too many people on it and that there's a clear host to manage the discussion, so that the whole thing doesn't get too confusing.
    • CommentAuthorntt
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2007
     
    Skypecast is a good idea to start. It's easy and like kevin said, well 'tested'.

    I also agree with farinelli that production quality should be an aim we should be looking at. While it is not only about Sennheisers (@farinelli, it's good to find another audio geek around :) )and for that matter expensive HW, it should be achievable with some efforts.

    Finally, lets not limit ourselves to audio. I feel that the audio podcast space is very crowded. Anyone and everyone is doing it. Video can add many various levels to such production. As to how it will fit in with our type of content is a good question. We should ofcourse take it slow, but lets keep an open mind. :)
    • CommentAuthorrinaz
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2007
     
    Agree with ntt. Video does add an extra dimention. At the same time, as Kevin says, is to keep it all casual.

    As my teacher once told me, equipment doesnt matter. It is the person who makes all the difference. So dont worry about not having the means of getting a sennheiser or hasselblad.

    After all, lonelygirl15 and rocketboom started out with only an ordinary camera and lights.

    I strongly believe that we should not limit ourself to equipment. No video camera? We have phone cameras. Use them. We have video in our digital camera. Use them. We have webcams. Use them too.

    Really, dont limit ourselves because the most important thing is ourselves.
    • CommentAuthorfarinelli
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2007
     
    Aye well said rinaz.

    Starting out with a podcast, ie. audio only, seems to be a pretty popular solution. I do think we should watch our viewers' comments closely, and be ready to do video if the demand is there. At a cursory glance a vidcast isn't the most logical thing when your subject is blogs, considering the extra amount of work and production needed, for one, but not being the most logical thing is also the reason why it would be a novelty to our prospective audience, rather than the usual subscribedownloadplayinbackground as ntt pointed out. And again as exemplified by mrbrown, audiences don't necessarily need kickass equipment to enjoy the show, even though that would be welcome anytime.
    • CommentAuthoruzyn
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2007
     
    farinelli, you'd be surprised how many 'kickass equipments' mrbrown has.

    let me get my thesis done with, then we shall meet up one day and discuss about this project. maybe do a little audition to pick the hosts, do one or two trial runs so all the hosts can get along with the flow well and then we can roll this thing out.

    :)
    • CommentAuthordk99
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2007
     
    why get all the host that can get along? Wouldn't it be more fun if u put 2 people who can't get along with each other to host a podcast? hahahaha....
    • CommentAuthoruzyn
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2007
     
    I mean to go with the flow. Not really mean get along with each other. The hosts would need to have a certain chemistry going else it would like chicken talking to duck (or what's the proper analogy to that?).
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    Are u guys checking TalkShoe? It's supposed to make it possible for audience to interact with the hosts.
    • CommentAuthoruzyn
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2007
     
    Yes clappingtree. That's the client that TWiT uses to make Net@Nite.

    But I think we can simply stick to Skype. Skype Live Cast already has similar capabilities and the audience wouldn't need to install new softwares on their computers.
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    With Skype, I think the recording for hosts is fine but not for people on the other end... unless you use a good recording software. Would be good to test this.
    • CommentAuthorfarinelli
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2007
     
    Hmm... Audacity? Or I'm not sure whether Adobe Premiere has software or sub-software for audio rec/editing?

    Looking forward to meetup.
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    Need something like Pamela. Have tried Audacity... not good for Skype with someone talking on the other end.
    • CommentAuthorfarinelli
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2007
     
    er pamela is a rec software? lol ok must check it out. or someone could *ahem* discreetly secure a copy of Cakewalk's Sonar 6 Producer Edition...
    • CommentAuthorfarinelli
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2007
     
    I've just checked Pamela out (sounds wrong lol). Looks good. A direct save to MP3 will also save us some trouble. Not much, considering the wide availability of converters out there, but you know saving a couple of seconds here and there would eventually add up to an hour.

    This from the one who has procrastination as his philosophy of life. Ole~
    • CommentAuthorntt
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2007
     
    For audio rec/editing Adobe has Audition.. Ermm.. $$.. :(

    Or if you need the Linux love, and dare to play with ALSA, then you can use Ardour. Which is something I need to check out soon... Damn, when will I get the time?
    • CommentAuthorfarinelli
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2007
     
    here's a moral question... if we're gonna go through this are we gonna use original software?

    uzyn i think you need to start locking the posts away from public view lol.
    • CommentAuthorntt
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2007
     
    @farinelli.

    If this is idea is going to anywhere it has to be original software. In the future if things like sponsership and advertisements come around, legality will become an important issue.

    Anyway, with so much great free/open/cheap and good software around, why do we even have to look at such alternatives.

    Finally, if the need arises to buy some original software for this project, I am sure we can sort that out.

    What do the other people think??
    • CommentAuthorfarinelli
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2007
     
    @ntt: i guess so.

    you'll need to intro me to some good open-source sites/databases. particularly for these kind of AV software. i just cant seem to dig the right ones up. it's a pity audacity doesn't work with skype... learning more about audio engineering just exposes how inadequate audacity is for anything other than the most basic of recordings. but if pamela is acceptable as a starter, then at least we can focus on gaining listenership, because that would ultimately gain us sponsors to get better equipment.

    if pamela just doesn't cut it, then well, i do hope it won't be as much of a sweat finding sponsors, given the stir uzyn caused at nexus with ping.
    • CommentAuthorrinaz
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2007
     
    I used to do a podcast with a friend on skype. I remember having some nightmare trying to find resources to record our voice recording on skype - there were some sites recommending me to get cables and wires. It was extremely complicated to do.

    Anyway for your information - 15 apps for recording skype conversation
    http://www.voip-sol.com/15-apps-for-recording-skype-conversations/

    Personally for me, I like hotrecorder as its the easiest voip that I've used so far.

    But if you want a totally free recorder, try this chat program

    http://www.gizmoproject.com/

    Its free, its clear and you can record your voice and your friends with not much lag involved.
    • CommentAuthorfarinelli
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2007
     
    We'll probably have to try it out. I'm sure we can split the recommended applications among members and all report back, but do you think that would help in the first place?
    • CommentAuthoruzyn
    • CommentTimeMar 31st 2007
     
    Erm, I don't understand why Audacity doesn't record Skype. And how would other softwares manage that better than Audacity? Ain't this all have to do with the no. of channels your soundcard has and not software?
    • CommentAuthorntt
    • CommentTimeMar 31st 2007
     
    I believe the main issue with skype and audacity is that you cant level stuff properly. As in there is no individual leveling. This could be an issue if you want to like mute a specific caller, etc...

    Also I was reading that people were having problems recording the incoming voice signal. I believe it should be doable lah. Just need to read up and tweak audacity.
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    Can we have daily spontaneous chat session (with voice), say, from 12-2pm -- lunch hour for all? The host can prepare, but the audience can change topics/subjects/direction on the spot.

    A spontaneous chat would be more fun and engaging, I think.
    • CommentAuthordk99
    • CommentTimeApr 13th 2007
     
    wah. who got the time to do that?
  5.  
    Sometimes can be just host-free chats, right?

    Later, can just cut and paste the best jokes and make into a podcast. How's that?
  6.  
    Er, also can create a twitter-like map for a daily lunch-time chat, and add voice? Hope I'm not asking for too much.
    • CommentAuthorrinaz
    • CommentTimeApr 13th 2007
     
    I really love the idea of the spontaneous voice chat podcast :)

    And I'm keen on it, the 12-2pm voice chat is really super too, but for me, I cant participate, unfortunately as I'm in the office with loads and loads of head of departments ... shhhh

    If anyone wants to send me a voice recording talking about the weather/food/gossip for the ping.sg weather/food/gossip, please feel free to! :) Like clappingtree says, we can just cut and paste it to be made into a podcast :)

    Btw want to emphasize this isnt a competition for the pingnation podcast, more like a spontaneous, fun thing to do :)

    email is makawaru@(nospam)gmail.com
    • CommentAuthorfarinelli
    • CommentTimeApr 13th 2007
     
    what about students... like me. lol 12-2 stuck in school with no comp (no laptop).
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    More ideas from the Shoutbox:

    Me: we cld pick the best of spontaneous chat (e.g. what ntt just did with tstar) and add them to a wiki... then podcast based on that compilation for the week or fortnight... another eg. what rinaz did with nicole and hendri a few weeks
    ntt: but writing/chatting is different than talking..
    clappingtree: just be your cute, humorous selves
    farinelli: yar... it would sound fake to me if you were to recreate a previous chat... unless we have acting pros la.
    clappingtree: then... the other option is to record by default and cut and paste later?
    ntt: @fari. true. but thats like a chitchat podcast.. ppl got interested in listening meh?
    farinelli: actually i thought the focus would be highlighting interesting blog posts then maybe discuss abit...
    Me: TWiT is basically chat... maybe can do a mix of both. Chat + Highlights
    NTT: TWiT has 'prep' as in Leo tells them abt the topics b4 hand
    ntt: @fari. if have something like this dk's meme, then have things to discuss lah.. but else what to talk abt?
    clappingtree: highlighting interesting blog posts sounds gd to me
    ntt: can try lah. but i think it will get boring pretty fast..
    • CommentAuthorfleokan
    • CommentTimeDec 9th 2008
     
    My choise to save skype conversations is SkypeCallRecorder(http://voipcallrecording.com/).
    Why ? It's simple, friendly, free and WORKS
    • CommentAuthorpaced
    • CommentTimeDec 15th 2008
     
    sorry guys, was just scanning through. Adobe Premier is an editing suite, so basically u can do all kinda editing on it. If you guys are looking for a cheap but good audio only editor, I would suggest sound forge.
    • CommentAuthorrelax
    • CommentTimeDec 15th 2008
     
    I agree with audio interaction.
    make an announcement when there's a session. thanks :)
    • CommentAuthorbrennan
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2008
     
    Actually, I would prefer a name for the podcast other than Pingnation. Like PingPongPiang or PingPongPodcast.

    Even PS3 - Ping Speak for 3veryone.